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fact, you were the head flight attendant?
CB: That’s correct.
NR: While you were on that flight, did you see this man in any of the seats?
CB: No, he does not look familiar.
NR: Was there anything strange at all about that flight?
CB: Nothing that stands out. It was a very smooth flight. No one complained and all of the passengers
were behaving. Nothing really that stands out at all.
NR: Where did you go after the flight landed in Chicago?
CB: The crew all met together in the terminal and headed through customs together. All of us had the
night off and I had a flight back out to Europe the next morning, so I wanted to get to the hotel and get some sleep.
NR: Did you see anything strange when you were in the customs area?
CB: Nothing really. I heard that there was a bit of a commotion with a passenger who was on our flight,
but there was nothing going on when I got there.
NR: Did any of the crew see anything? Anything that you discussed at any point?
CB: If they did, they didn’t mention anything to me.
NR: OK, thank you, Ms. Burnham. I appreciate you coming in here and talking to me.
CB: Can I ask you a question?
NR: Sure.
CB: Was there something weird that happened with that flight? Some kind of weird government
experiment or something?
NR: Why are you asking that?
CB: I keep seeing strange men in suits and hats lurking outside my house. I just figured they were
connected to the government or something.
NR: Strange men? What do they look like?
CB: Well, they lurk in the shadows, so they’re hard to see. I can see they are wearing long coats and
wide-brimmed hats. They must be wearing some kind of night-vision goggles, because I can see red where their eyes should be. Is that you guys? Are you spying on us?
NR: No, Ms. Burnham. We are not following anyone from Flight-190. Can I ask you something else, Ms.
Burnham?
CB: Of course you can. That’s why I’m here.
NR: Have you seen any strange children?
CB: Children?
NR: Strange children at your front door?
CB: No, Mr. Randle. That is a very odd question.
NR: Yes, I suppose it is. OK, sorry for the odd turn there. You can go now. Thank you again.
CB: You’re welcome. So, who are these weird people outside my house?
NR: I wish I knew, Ms. Burnham. I wish I knew.
END OF INTERVIEW
***
Transcript of Interview
Date: June 16, 2014
Time: 11:15 a.m. CST
Person interviewed: Captain Craig Culp of International Airlines
Interviewer: Noble Randall of I.C.E. on behalf of Homeland Security
Subject: Strange occurrences on June 3, 2014, Chicago O'Hare Airport International Terminal.
Noble Randle (NR): Thank you for coming in, Captain Culp.
Graig Culp (GC): My pleasure, although I can't imagine I'm going to be much help.
NR: You were the pilot for Flight 190 on June 3, correct?
GC: I was.
NR: Was it a typical flight?
GC: It's a route I've done many times.
NR: So there was nothing unusual?
GC: Nope.
NR: There was no disruption from any of the passengers?
GC: If there was, no one brought it to my attention. So, no.
NR: I see. Nothing at the departing gate and nothing at the arrival?
GC: Well, there was one thing, I guess.
NR: What's that?
GC: Well, I hesitate to even bring it up. I think it was just me, after a long flight. You know, you get so
connected to the plane when you're the captain. I've been flying for a long time now and there's very little I haven't seen or done inside an airplane. When we landed in Chicago and pulled up to the gate, while I was waiting for the ramp to get pulled up, I thought I felt something strange with the airplane. It was just for a second, a kind of vibration. I thought maybe the ground crew had hit the plane with the ramp and I was angry about it. That could damage the plane and we'd get delayed. When I looked out the window, though, the ramp was in place and the side of the plane was just fine.
NR: Was it the cargo hold opening?
GC: Well, that feels a bit different. This was something
CB: That’s correct.
NR: While you were on that flight, did you see this man in any of the seats?
CB: No, he does not look familiar.
NR: Was there anything strange at all about that flight?
CB: Nothing that stands out. It was a very smooth flight. No one complained and all of the passengers
were behaving. Nothing really that stands out at all.
NR: Where did you go after the flight landed in Chicago?
CB: The crew all met together in the terminal and headed through customs together. All of us had the
night off and I had a flight back out to Europe the next morning, so I wanted to get to the hotel and get some sleep.
NR: Did you see anything strange when you were in the customs area?
CB: Nothing really. I heard that there was a bit of a commotion with a passenger who was on our flight,
but there was nothing going on when I got there.
NR: Did any of the crew see anything? Anything that you discussed at any point?
CB: If they did, they didn’t mention anything to me.
NR: OK, thank you, Ms. Burnham. I appreciate you coming in here and talking to me.
CB: Can I ask you a question?
NR: Sure.
CB: Was there something weird that happened with that flight? Some kind of weird government
experiment or something?
NR: Why are you asking that?
CB: I keep seeing strange men in suits and hats lurking outside my house. I just figured they were
connected to the government or something.
NR: Strange men? What do they look like?
CB: Well, they lurk in the shadows, so they’re hard to see. I can see they are wearing long coats and
wide-brimmed hats. They must be wearing some kind of night-vision goggles, because I can see red where their eyes should be. Is that you guys? Are you spying on us?
NR: No, Ms. Burnham. We are not following anyone from Flight-190. Can I ask you something else, Ms.
Burnham?
CB: Of course you can. That’s why I’m here.
NR: Have you seen any strange children?
CB: Children?
NR: Strange children at your front door?
CB: No, Mr. Randle. That is a very odd question.
NR: Yes, I suppose it is. OK, sorry for the odd turn there. You can go now. Thank you again.
CB: You’re welcome. So, who are these weird people outside my house?
NR: I wish I knew, Ms. Burnham. I wish I knew.
END OF INTERVIEW
***
Transcript of Interview
Date: June 16, 2014
Time: 11:15 a.m. CST
Person interviewed: Captain Craig Culp of International Airlines
Interviewer: Noble Randall of I.C.E. on behalf of Homeland Security
Subject: Strange occurrences on June 3, 2014, Chicago O'Hare Airport International Terminal.
Noble Randle (NR): Thank you for coming in, Captain Culp.
Graig Culp (GC): My pleasure, although I can't imagine I'm going to be much help.
NR: You were the pilot for Flight 190 on June 3, correct?
GC: I was.
NR: Was it a typical flight?
GC: It's a route I've done many times.
NR: So there was nothing unusual?
GC: Nope.
NR: There was no disruption from any of the passengers?
GC: If there was, no one brought it to my attention. So, no.
NR: I see. Nothing at the departing gate and nothing at the arrival?
GC: Well, there was one thing, I guess.
NR: What's that?
GC: Well, I hesitate to even bring it up. I think it was just me, after a long flight. You know, you get so
connected to the plane when you're the captain. I've been flying for a long time now and there's very little I haven't seen or done inside an airplane. When we landed in Chicago and pulled up to the gate, while I was waiting for the ramp to get pulled up, I thought I felt something strange with the airplane. It was just for a second, a kind of vibration. I thought maybe the ground crew had hit the plane with the ramp and I was angry about it. That could damage the plane and we'd get delayed. When I looked out the window, though, the ramp was in place and the side of the plane was just fine.
NR: Was it the cargo hold opening?
GC: Well, that feels a bit different. This was something
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